Stories which will frighten even the most hardened agent.
2011/03/04 11:40:13 AM
Clinton Ungerer
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Do you think that the baker would tell you the secret ingredients of his best seller. It took me 3 years to get to where I am now, and sorry, you would have to hire me to find out my secret.
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2011/03/04 12:01:08 PM
Marlon Shevelew
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Clinton, you are not a baker and for that matter you are not an attorney either. I am curious if you are even registered as a debt collector. You are quick to run attorneys down and I simply would like to know why you are advising TPN and their followers of some way to avoid the PIE act in evicting someone. Can you answer me or not??
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Marlon Shevelew
Specialist Landlord / Tenant law Attorney / Consumer Protection Act expert
and National Legal Advisor to TPN
www.marlonshevelew.co.za
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2011/03/16 12:32:43 PM
Clinton Ungerer
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Marlon. I am sorry if you feel that I was running you down with my examples in general. You are right I am not a debt collector and also not a lawyer as you said. I am an individual that offers assistance to those customers that need me.
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2011/03/16 04:22:16 PM
Ben
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Hi Clinton
I have met you at some of the TPN seminars and have actually discussed this exact same topic with you at lenght. You agree with me that you are not allowed in terms of the Constitution to evict any person from their home without a court order. You also agreed with me that one may not take the law into their own hands as this amounts to spoliation. Spoliation is often met with an urgent application to the High Court (Manament van Spolie) which results in the Landlord having to restore the posession of the tenant and paying the legal fees of the tenant. This also causes certain hurdles when later attempting a lawful eviction.
I find it strange that you post these comments on this blog where you suggest that you can have evictions done lawfully without obtaining a court order.
I believe in solving problems in the simplest, cheapest and fastest way possible - especially when working with investment properties - but you need to be careful not to promise people things that you can't deliver on. Remember that a tenant being illegally evicted has many avenues to pursue. The Landlord may be held criminally liable in terms of the Rental Housing Act, they may have to pay legal fees to the tune of +/- R15 000 - R25 000 on an Urgent Spoliation Application and the matter may be refered to the the Rental Housing Tribunal. Once at the tribunal, all other legal action is suspended and the Tribunal cannot make an order for eviction. The Landlord again loses.
You explained to me that your intention is to assist the sheriff in more dangerous evictions, just like the Red Ants are doing. We work quite close with the Red Ants on some of our evictions and I can promise you that they never act for us without a court order.
You will see that we dont have trade secrets in our industry. The law is open to all. There are unfortunitely many attorneys who are not familiar with the way in which evictions need to be dealt with. The solution to that is however not that the landlord should not refer the eviction to another person who is unfamiliar with the legal process.
Ben Steyn
Steyn & Steyn Attorneys
www.steynsteyn.com
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2011/03/23 04:09:58 PM
CobusvdM
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Problem solver wrote:
Marlon. I am sorry if you feel that I was running you down with my examples in general. You are right I am not a debt collector and also not a lawyer as you said. I am an individual that offers assistance to those customers that need me.
The historical (effective) DIY methods of dealing with tenant’s problems are forever over. It became a regulated business and one need only one clever tenant to take you to the cleaners to lose all and more that was gained through any DIY practices. We entered an era where professional, trained an experienced estate agents are necessary to conduct rental management. They will advise their clients (landlords or tenants) to make use of attorneys that are specialists of their trade should the need occur. The DIY sledgehammer tactics of the past are fortunately only fit for the history books of the present rental industry. Rope is all a man needs when he decided to hang himself.
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Cobus van der Merwe
OWN YOUR OWN INVESTMENT PROPERTY
www.incommercial.co.za
www.wealthkey8.com
www.cobusvdmproperty.co.za
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2011/03/24 11:58:34 AM
Clinton Ungerer
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Good day all. I don't do sledgehammer evictions. It is against the law and can land you in jail. I did however find a way to approach the bad tenant, and explain to them the problems that they are causing the owner of the said property, because of them not paying rent. Most of them has got real problems, and because of that, they are unable to afford to pay rent. Then they get advice from they'er lawyers to stay on, and that they can not be evicted without a eviction notice. (The Law) Good advice for the bad tenant staying for free. But what about the owner of the property that still needs to pay the bond at the bank. Investment property. The bank does not want to hear stories about the tenant that is not paying. And so we get to the legal aspects of the matter. I believe almost every thing that Ben Steyn is saying is true and correct. That is why I don't do elegal evictions, and I don't call what I do an eviction. Eviction without a court order is against the law. I cosider myself to be a problem solver, with knowledge on what can and can't be done. According to the law.!
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2011/04/09 09:18:17 AM
Figjam
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'That is why I don't do elegal evictions, and I don't call what I do an eviction'. - How can you say that when your website is called 'Home EVICTIONS'? you also go on to say how many 'evictions' you have done and refer to what you do as an eviction? This doesnt make sense to me...
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2011/04/14 07:44:41 PM
decorum.35
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I recon you should correct all the spelling mistakes on your website first...................Problem solver wrote:
Good day all. I don't do sledgehammer evictions. It is against the law and can land you in jail. I did however find a way to approach the bad tenant, and explain to them the problems that they are causing the owner of the said property, because of them not paying rent. Most of them has got real problems, and because of that, they are unable to afford to pay rent. Then they get advice from they'er lawyers to stay on, and that they can not be evicted without a eviction notice. (The Law) Good advice for the bad tenant staying for free. But what about the owner of the property that still needs to pay the bond at the bank. Investment property. The bank does not want to hear stories about the tenant that is not paying. And so we get to the legal aspects of the matter. I believe almost every thing that Ben Steyn is saying is true and correct. That is why I don't do elegal evictions, and I don't call what I do an eviction. Eviction without a court order is against the law. I cosider myself to be a problem solver, with knowledge on what can and can't be done. According to the law.!
edited by Problem solver on 2011/03/24
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2011/04/16 12:20:33 PM
Clinton Ungerer
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Thanks Shaun. I will look into it.
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2011/05/18 02:52:39 PM
realink
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You are not a problem solver but create problems. After your unsuccessful "eviction" which dragged on for 2 months you still have not even returned the keys for the property after several requests. You were given all the tools to do the job but could not succeed and in turn cost the owner 2 months unpaid rent and your costs. Also the way you operate is a far cry from "professional". You also don't know what confidentiality means. Its far better to go the legal route than yours. Your services are certainly a far cry from what you promise on your website.
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2011/05/18 02:58:09 PM
realink
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You are far from a problem solver and operate soooo unprofessional. You do not offer the services quoted on your website.Problem solver wrote:
Do you think that the baker would tell you the secret ingredients of his best seller. It took me 3 years to get to where I am now, and sorry, you would have to hire me to find out my secret.
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2011/05/23 05:17:49 PM
Clinton Ungerer
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We were assisting 3 other costomers at the same time as you. And there problems were solved. Maybe the problem was never with me and my services to you, but rather a big problem from your side.? And yes we do have refrences.
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2011/05/23 06:51:31 PM
realink
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quote=Problem solver]We were assisting 3 other costomers at the same time as you. And there problems were solved. Maybe the problem was never with me and my services to you, but rather a big problem from your side.? And yes we do have refrences.[If you really have references then put some contact numbers on the forum. Your services and communication are as bad as your spelling. Are the services that you offer legal?????]
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2011/05/23 06:54:13 PM
realink
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Perhaps you should put some of your references on your website.
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2011/05/24 08:07:59 AM
Clinton Ungerer
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Ek is so gatvol vir al julle mense wat die heel tyd praat oor spel werk wat nie reg is nie. WTF ek is nie besig om n toets te skryf nie en ek wil weet wat is die storie dat my ou kleinte wat na die tyd kom om my so nonsens te vertel en te praat oor hoe ek my besigheid hanteer. Ek sal nie mense aanrand om hulle uit die huis te kry nie , dit maak nie saak wie die kleient is nie. So hou nou maar op om te wil meet teen my want myne is wel die grootste tussen ons twee. En ja ek dink ek moet dalk maar vir julle my verwysings opsit om jou (realink) stil te kry.
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2011/05/24 09:34:20 AM
realink
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Problem solver wrote:
Ek is so gatvol vir al julle mense wat die heel tyd praat oor spel werk wat nie reg is nie. WTF ek is nie besig om n toets te skryf nie en ek wil weet wat is die storie dat my ou kleinte wat na die tyd kom om my so nonsens te vertel en te praat oor hoe ek my besigheid hanteer. Ek sal nie mense aanrand om hulle uit die huis te kry nie , dit maak nie saak wie die kleient is nie. So hou nou maar op om te wil meet teen my want myne is wel die grootste tussen ons twee. En ja ek dink ek moet dalk maar vir julle my verwysings opsit om jou (realink) stil te kry.
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2011/05/24 09:36:00 AM
realink
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I challenge you to put 3 references of clients who's problems you have solved on the forum. It will be good for your business. Also is your method legal??
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2011/05/25 03:10:13 PM
Clinton Ungerer
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Dit is dalk nie n slegte plan om n paar verwysings op te sit nie. Hou my web site dop. www.homeevictions.co.za
edited by Problem solver on 2011/05/25
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2011/08/18 04:47:53 PM
Clinton Ungerer
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Ek is bly om te se dat ek baie besig was en dat ek nou eers kans kry om weer op my web adress nuwe verwysings te plaas. Skakel hulle gerus om te hoor my dienste. Sonder enige proebleeme is hulle afgehandel.
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2011/08/18 04:51:17 PM
Clinton Ungerer
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Kyk asb na my verwysings en se dan weer vir my dat my manier nie werk nie dan hoor ons wat se my kliente.!
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